Supreme Court hears arguments in ‘vampire rule’ gun case

Spread the love

The U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments on Tuesday in a case over a Hawaii law that prohibits concealed carry permit holders from bringing guns on private property that is open to the public.

Wolford v. Lopez challenges a Hawaii law that prevents gun owners from bringing handguns to beaches, bars, restaurants that serve alcohol and gas stations without the owner’s consent. California, Maryland, New Jersey and New York have similar restrictions on guns in public spaces.

“The presumptive ban is inconsistent with our national and historical tradition,” said Alan Beck, a lawyer representing Hawaii gun owners who sued the state.

Beck argued that Hawaii based its law on historical traditions like Black codes which prevented newly formerly enslaved African Americans from obtaining firearms. He said this application is inconsistent with the Second Amendment.

“We can’t use a racist, discriminatory law to apply to a law that applies to the general public,” Beck said.

However, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said she did not understand why Black codes should be excluded in the determination of the law if history and tradition are compelling factors.

Neal Katyal, a lawyer representing Hawaii, argued that the purpose of including Black codes in its explanation is to argue evidence that states have historically been allowed to implement gun regulations. He said Hawaii’s law is based on 200 years of customs against carrying weapons.

Justice Neil Gorsuch appeared skeptical about Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of black codes and compared it to “garlic in front of a vampire.”

“You could have rights and regulations that affect someone’s interests but they actually don’t implicate their constitutional rights,” Jackson said, appearing to be in favor of Hawaii’s restrictions.

Similarly, Justice Sonia Sotomayor pressed Beck on whether people are guaranteed a constitutional right to carry guns on private property.

“Nothing about Hawaii’s custom, tradition, or culture creates an expectation that the general public carries guns wherever they go,” Sotomayor said.

Justices also dug into questions over the distinction between guarantees in the First Amendment and the Second Amendment over private property rules. Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch questioned lawyers for Hawaii over the difference between bringing a gun to a gas station versus soliciting at someone’s house.

Since the Second Amendment deals with gun possession rather than free speech, “the first amendment rules are different from the second amendment,” Katyal said.

In lower court litigation, Hawaii pointed to a 1771 New Jersey law and 1865 Louisiana law that explicitly required consent before entering a private property of any kind with a gun. Lower courts upheld Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of these laws.

Several justices on the court appeared skeptical of these arguments, and Justice Clarence Thomas said later laws, like the 14th Amendment, should be considered in this case since it was generated in response previous legal restrictions.

“They wanted to disarm the Black population in order to help the [Ku Klux] Klan terrorize them,” Justice Samuel Alito said about Black code laws.

Katyal said Black code laws were a “shameful part of our history” but argued they represent how gun owners did not have the right to carry firearms onto private property.

“Even the opponents of the Black codes recognized that you have no right to carry a firearm onto someone’s property,” Katyal said.

John Commerford, executive director of the NRA-ILA, urged justices on the court to rule against Hawaii’s law.

“The Aloha State’s radical ‘vampire rule,’ which prohibits concealed carry permitholders from entering private property without the express consent of the owner, is a blatant violation of the Second Amendment,” he said.

The “vampire rule” refers to the folklore that vampires need an invitation to enter private property.

The justices will decide whether to uphold Hawaii’s gun restrictions by the end of its term, slated for June or early July.

Leave a Comment





Latest News Stories

HHS takes sweeping action to reverse Biden-era policies on gender affirming care

HHS takes sweeping action to reverse Biden-era policies on gender affirming care

By Morgan SweeneyThe Center Square The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services unveiled a multi-pronged regulatory effort Thursday to curtail gender-affirming care for minors, including gender transition procedures at...
Trump signs order reclassifying marijuana as Schedule III drug

Trump signs order reclassifying marijuana as Schedule III drug

By Thérèse BoudreauxThe Center Square President Donald Trump signed an executive order to reclassify marijuana from a Schedule I to a Schedule III controlled substance, despite many Republican lawmakers urging...
Poll: Americans back criminal and homelessness reform

Poll: Americans back criminal and homelessness reform

By Zachery SchmidtThe Center Square This story has been updated since its initial publication. Americans support stricter criminal measures and homelessness reform, according to a new poll by The Cicero...
U.S. troops to get $1,776 tax-free bonuses by Dec. 20

U.S. troops to get $1,776 tax-free bonuses by Dec. 20

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square U.S. troops will get a bonus before Christmas this year that will cost taxpayers about $2.6 billion. President Donald Trump announced a $1,776 tax-free "Warrior...
New action taken to strengthen US military chaplain corps

New action taken to strengthen US military chaplain corps

By Bethany BlankleyThe Center Square Secretary of War Pete Hegseth issued a new directive to revamp the U.S. military Chaplain Corps. The new directive was issued one week after a...
Federal judge blocks ICE policy on lawmaker visits

Federal judge blocks ICE policy on lawmaker visits

By Chris WadeThe Center Square Members of Congress will be allowed to visit ICE facilities without notice and may inspect migrant detention areas under a new ruling by a federal...
Illinois quick hits: Increased energy prices expected; IHSA changes approved

Illinois quick hits: Increased energy prices expected; IHSA changes approved

By The Center SquareThe Center Square Increased energy prices expected The Citizens Utility Board says ComEd customers can expect continued high prices after grid operator PJM Interconnection released the results...
Pritzker disputes Trump claims, says Illinois GOP backs president '100%'

Pritzker disputes Trump claims, says Illinois GOP backs president ‘100%’

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – Gov. J.B. Pritzker says Illinois Republicans are letting President Donald Trump get away with boasting about higher...
WATCH: Pritzker reacts to Trump’s address; Immigration enforcement continues

WATCH: Pritzker reacts to Trump’s address; Immigration enforcement continues

By Greg Bishop | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – In today's edition of Illinois in Focus Daily, The Center Square Editor Greg Bishop shares highlights from...
D.C.’s power to challenge Trump in jeopardy after Guard ruling

D.C.’s power to challenge Trump in jeopardy after Guard ruling

By Daniel Fisher | Legal NewslineThe Center Square A federal court’s slapdown of the District of Columbia’s lawsuit against the Trump administration over the deployment of National Guard troops could...
November inflation at 2.7%, lower than expected

November inflation at 2.7%, lower than expected

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square Consumer prices rose by 0.2% in the two month period between September and November. In the past 12 months, overall prices rose by 2.7%, which...
Sophomore Landon Justice rises up to score over a Neoga defender. Justice dominated the JV contest with 20 points and 13 rebounds. —photo by Terri Cox

Warriors overcome slow start to handle Neoga, remain undefeated

Featured Photo Caption: Sophomore Landon Justice rises up to score over a Neoga defender. Justice dominated the JV contest with 20 points and 13 rebounds. —photo by Terri Cox By...
Trump touts accomplishments, future policies during primetime address

Trump touts accomplishments, future policies during primetime address

By Sarah Roderick-FitchThe Center Square In what is likely his final address to the nation of the year, President Donald Trump touted what he said were his accomplishments, and previewed...
Closing arguments made in congressional redistricting suit

Closing arguments made in congressional redistricting suit

By Madeline ShannonThe Center Square Lawyers supporting and opposing California’s congressional redistricting maps made their closing arguments in the lawsuit Wednesday in federal court in Los Angeles. The case is...
U.S. House passes GOP health care bill, sends to Senate

U.S. House passes GOP health care bill, sends to Senate

By Thérèse BoudreauxThe Center Square The U.S. House passed the Lower Health Care Premiums for All Americans Act in a party line, 216-211, vote Wednesday, sending the bill to its...